Free MIT of CanWest: The time is upon us...

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People with way too much time on their hands...................another reason why individuals like this can't operate in the working world and go to lengths like these to justify the "academia" existense.

This is something that I wrote when I heard about this mess. Having moved on from University into the working world where things actually happen I look back on discussions like this with embarassment. In an institution such as a University the greatest minds are supposed to exist and hopefully some of those minds are teaching the next generation. A small lesson in reality for those who would care to listen, and listen is the key word.

Let the funding come, accept the money for the time they are willing to give and get on with your lives. You are not "making a difference" by wasting your time protesting a non issue. Figure it out. A University is basically an underfunded business that relies on its students and grants to keep operating. Do you really think that they are going to turn down 1M dollars because you come out wearing read and swearing bloody murder against Can-West. If you want to make a difference get a job with Can-West and affect change from a position that allows you motivate opinions and make a difference. Don't waste your time at a town hall meeting and don't bother bringing out the gas masks.

Understand that life goes on despite your best efforts and those of you who have learned that petty demonstration always yields to true leadership will excel. The MIT will take the money, students will have access to better scholarships and you will get your degree. This is not about you or how Can-West goes about its business. If you want to ensure that this funding is totally unbiased and without expectations then get involved in forming the agreement but don't argue useless points and then retire to a campus bar when the inevitable happens. It is not the one who yells that loudest that is heard, it is the one who listens and acts that is understood.

12:37 a.m.

"If you want to make a difference get a job with Can-West and affect change from a position that allows you motivate opinions and make a difference." -Rob

Last time I checked workers in a huge corporation, especially lower level ones, don't have much say in how the company works. The corporate business structure is like fascism or a dictatorship; the orders go from the top down, not the other way.
-K's
the unofficial MITer
http://revolutionthis.blogspot.com

1:33 a.m.

re: Mary Doyle

"also, i definitely think it is a problem that she isn't speaking."

Glad to hear you're upset. Does this change your view of how open the forum is?

To reiterate, Dean Ross represents the administration of all of FIMS--library, journalism and MIT.

Mary Doyle, as a journalism instructor, was supposed to represent a contrasting perspective to MIT’s Nick Dyer-Witheford before she was censored.

Some journalism students have taken this up with the organizers and have not received a clear or logical response for Doyle being censored.

For those from all sides, I encourage you to show your support for free speech by also questioning how the forum has been organized.

8:50 a.m.

This was posted on the FIMS Gradstudent list.

Cheers,
Sabina

******************************

Hi everyone,

Apologies for our late reply to your questions regarding Mary Doyle’s not
speaking today.

After a long discussion we (with no pressure from faculty) decided to retract
Mary Doyle’s invitation because it was not in accordance with either our
original intent nor the rules we set out. We examined our original intentions
for organizing this Forum:
1. to discuss mechanisms for student participation in departmental
decision-making
2. discuss the CanWest issue

There are many, many sides to both these issues and the point of inviting the
speakers in the first place was to *introduce* two points of view (as we know,
Catherine Ross is in favour of the deal and Nick Dyer-Witheford against) and
for the students, later, to say what they think of both issues. The original
choice of speakers obviously doesn’t satisfy everyone, however, given that we
took the initiative to organize a Student Forum meant that we had to make some
up-front decisions about who to invite – and we knew from the start that we
wouldn’t be able to represent everyone’s interests in the matter. Therefore, we
did not chose the speakers based on *who* they represent (we would have had to
have at least 6: one from each “side” of each department in the faculty); we
chose them as, let’s say, sample representatives from each side of the issue.
We decided, in the end, to retract our invitation to Mary Doyle out of respect
for time (we wanted to emphasize the student discussion portion of this event),
out of fairness to the first two speakers, and because we decided this was the
best way to meet this Forum’s original objectives. There was no intent to be
censorious or unfair; we are sorry our actions have been interpreted this way
by some.

For those of you who are coming to the forum, I invite you again to please read
the remarks Mary Doyle would have given us today. They are available on the
messageboard: http://b4.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?&user=prest0

Again, we hope to see you all at the meeting very shortly.

Respectfully yours,
Guida da Silva and Sabina Iseli-Otto
MLIS Student Council

11:03 a.m.

This was posted on the FIMS Gradstudent list.

Cheers,
Sabina

******************************

Hi everyone,

Apologies for our late reply to your questions regarding Mary Doyle’s not
speaking today.

After a long discussion we (with no pressure from faculty) decided to retract
Mary Doyle’s invitation because it was not in accordance with either our
original intent nor the rules we set out. We examined our original intentions
for organizing this Forum:
1. to discuss mechanisms for student participation in departmental
decision-making
2. discuss the CanWest issue

There are many, many sides to both these issues and the point of inviting the
speakers in the first place was to *introduce* two points of view (as we know,
Catherine Ross is in favour of the deal and Nick Dyer-Witheford against) and
for the students, later, to say what they think of both issues. The original
choice of speakers obviously doesn’t satisfy everyone, however, given that we
took the initiative to organize a Student Forum meant that we had to make some
up-front decisions about who to invite – and we knew from the start that we
wouldn’t be able to represent everyone’s interests in the matter. Therefore, we
did not chose the speakers based on *who* they represent (we would have had to
have at least 6: one from each “side” of each department in the faculty); we
chose them as, let’s say, sample representatives from each side of the issue.
We decided, in the end, to retract our invitation to Mary Doyle out of respect
for time (we wanted to emphasize the student discussion portion of this event),
out of fairness to the first two speakers, and because we decided this was the
best way to meet this Forum’s original objectives. There was no intent to be
censorious or unfair; we are sorry our actions have been interpreted this way
by some.

For those of you who are coming to the forum, I invite you again to please read
the remarks Mary Doyle would have given us today. They are available on the
messageboard: http://b4.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?&user=prest0

Again, we hope to see you all at the meeting very shortly.

Respectfully yours,
Guida da Silva and Sabina Iseli-Otto
MLIS Student Council

11:04 a.m.

This was posted on the FIMS Gradstudent list.

Cheers,
Sabina

******************************

Hi everyone,

Apologies for our late reply to your questions regarding Mary Doyle’s not
speaking today.

After a long discussion we (with no pressure from faculty) decided to retract
Mary Doyle’s invitation because it was not in accordance with either our
original intent nor the rules we set out. We examined our original intentions
for organizing this Forum:
1. to discuss mechanisms for student participation in departmental
decision-making
2. discuss the CanWest issue

There are many, many sides to both these issues and the point of inviting the
speakers in the first place was to *introduce* two points of view (as we know,
Catherine Ross is in favour of the deal and Nick Dyer-Witheford against) and
for the students, later, to say what they think of both issues. The original
choice of speakers obviously doesn’t satisfy everyone, however, given that we
took the initiative to organize a Student Forum meant that we had to make some
up-front decisions about who to invite – and we knew from the start that we
wouldn’t be able to represent everyone’s interests in the matter. Therefore, we
did not chose the speakers based on *who* they represent (we would have had to
have at least 6: one from each “side” of each department in the faculty); we
chose them as, let’s say, sample representatives from each side of the issue.
We decided, in the end, to retract our invitation to Mary Doyle out of respect
for time (we wanted to emphasize the student discussion portion of this event),
out of fairness to the first two speakers, and because we decided this was the
best way to meet this Forum’s original objectives. There was no intent to be
censorious or unfair; we are sorry our actions have been interpreted this way
by some.

For those of you who are coming to the forum, I invite you again to please read
the remarks Mary Doyle would have given us today. They are available on the
messageboard: http://b4.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?&user=prest0

Again, we hope to see you all at the meeting very shortly.

Respectfully yours,
Guida da Silva and Sabina Iseli-Otto
MLIS Student Council

11:04 a.m.

This was posted on the FIMS Gradstudent list.

Cheers,
Sabina

******************************

Hi everyone,

Apologies for our late reply to your questions regarding Mary Doyle’s not
speaking today.

After a long discussion we (with no pressure from faculty) decided to retract
Mary Doyle’s invitation because it was not in accordance with either our
original intent nor the rules we set out. We examined our original intentions
for organizing this Forum:
1. to discuss mechanisms for student participation in departmental
decision-making
2. discuss the CanWest issue

There are many, many sides to both these issues and the point of inviting the
speakers in the first place was to *introduce* two points of view (as we know,
Catherine Ross is in favour of the deal and Nick Dyer-Witheford against) and
for the students, later, to say what they think of both issues. The original
choice of speakers obviously doesn’t satisfy everyone, however, given that we
took the initiative to organize a Student Forum meant that we had to make some
up-front decisions about who to invite – and we knew from the start that we
wouldn’t be able to represent everyone’s interests in the matter. Therefore, we
did not chose the speakers based on *who* they represent (we would have had to
have at least 6: one from each “side” of each department in the faculty); we
chose them as, let’s say, sample representatives from each side of the issue.
We decided, in the end, to retract our invitation to Mary Doyle out of respect
for time (we wanted to emphasize the student discussion portion of this event),
out of fairness to the first two speakers, and because we decided this was the
best way to meet this Forum’s original objectives. There was no intent to be
censorious or unfair; we are sorry our actions have been interpreted this way
by some.

For those of you who are coming to the forum, I invite you again to please read
the remarks Mary Doyle would have given us today. They are available on the
messageboard: http://b4.boards2go.com/boards/board.cgi?&user=prest0

Again, we hope to see you all at the meeting very shortly.

Respectfully yours,
Guida da Silva and Sabina Iseli-Otto
MLIS Student Council

11:04 a.m.

Sorry that got posted so many times. There was an "error in the server."

11:06 a.m.

To Whom it May Concern,

Simon Fraser University has received money from Canwest since 1989. Receiving $200,000 in 2001 alone. http://www.sfu.ca/mediapr/sfnews/2001/Sept20/canwest.html
Yet their students, and their graduates, still speak out against Canwest and Canwest media outlets (http://www.presscampaign.org/articles_4.html). Clearly, their silence was not bought nor was a pro-Canwest viewpoint gained, so why should Western's case be any different?
A Simon Fraser student again speaks out against Canwest in this article from the UBC Journalism Review (http://www.journalism.ubc.ca/thunderbird/archives/2001.12/analysis.html). This article is interesting because it is one of many articles written by UBC students that is critical of Canwest, yet UBC has received $500,000 from Canwest to establish a chair similar to the one they are proposing at Western (http://www.journalism.ubc.ca/faculty_canwest.html). Clearly, the UBC journalists have not been bought by the Canwest gift nor has their silence been gained.
Previous emails have called for evidence, I submit the above paragraphs as evidence that Canwest has been unable to buy silence in other universities or indoctrinate their students.
Attached at the bottom of this email is a list of academic institutions that Canwest has supported, evidence that we are not alone in accepting this money or unique in receiving it.
I have spent a good portion of this weekend looking for evidence that Canwest is evil.
I've searched countless databases and have yet to find published, serious, academic work from anyone in this department that criticizes Canwest.
If the Canwest gift is a threat to academic freedom, if it truly is an attempt to buy the faculty's silence, to keep professors from publishing anti-Canwest work, I propose that it is a poor business venture; the silence, until this current email foray, has been provided free of charge. That is what the evidence, or the lack thereof, shows us. If I am incorrect in this statement, please provide the academic work that you have done.
I also searched for evidence that Canwest has been charged with human rights violations. I searched because based on the arguments I've seen thrown around, in solidarity or otherwise, that the thousands of Canwest employees that work in media outlets across the country and around the world are prisoners of Canwest management. Fascinating that in a free and democratic society Canwest seems to keep an entire staff of prisoners. Insulting to many of the journalists that work at these organizations who are proud to work for their media outlet and who willingly go to work daily for Canadians but also for Canwest.
The evidence I found shows that Canwest is a company, like Rogers, like BCE.

Despite the evidence, which heavily pushes towards taking the money, I think that this struggle has a conclusion that can have us rejecting the money, consider it a modest proposal.

The journalism students want an entrance scholarship and a visiting professional, let them pay for it. Let's raise tuition. I propose the Class of 2005/2006 endowment. It would see every member of the entering class paying only, as one professor describes it, a "small amount" more and would keep the integrity of FIMS intact. A $26,500 tuition increase ($35,000 total) is a small price to pay so that faculty can continue to silently sit in judgement of Canwest. Think of the high calibre of ethical journalists this will produce, of course they will either be from very privileged backgrounds or very deeply in debt, but a rich journalist or a starving journalist is always an empathetic journalist, eager to comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable, right?
But I realize this is a little unfair.
It doesn't give the faculty themselves the opportunity to join in, to as another professor described it, be pro-journalism, to share our values and fight our fight, to stand with us in a grand vision of journalistic "solidarity." So we'll only increase the journalism tuition by $13,000 and the faculty will pay the remainder. Are you ok with that? Oh what an ethical utopia! Ridiculous you say? Oh come now, anyone that would vote against the Canwest gift should be prepared to tighten their own belt should they not? Perhaps the faculty that are so outraged would be willing to pay the entire amount, keeping the journalism tuition at its current, non-supported level (remember we don't receive TA-ships or OGS funding, I wish you put as much effort into fighting for that as you have into stopping the Canwest gift). The FIMS Adopt a journalist program.
I realize some may think that MY proposal is ridiculous, but to me, and many of my colleagues, rejecting the Canwest gift is just as preposterous.

If you are a faculty member that has yet to vote, please do so.
Please vote against the motion to reject the Canwest gift.

Sincerely,
Don Peat
President
MAJ Students' Council

Attachment-
For Your Information:

From the Canwest Foundation website:

The CanWest Global Foundation helps young

people train for careers in the media and assists

colleges and universities in providing the resources

they need to offer leading edge educational

opportunities. In 2000, CanWest announced an

$84 million benefits package to be disbursed over five

years: $12.3 million of the package was earmarked to

help fund communications and media studies in Canadian

colleges and universities, $2.25 million for industry training

centres, $23.9 million for a production fund, plus additional funds

for Canadian programming initiatives.

Academic Support

• Red River College in Winnipeg

received $50,000 to launch the

CanWest Global Multimedia

Classroom and Studio.

• Lethbridge Community College

received $225,000 to fund a news

broadcasting centre.

• The University of Lethbridge

was given a $100,000

contribution for a multimedia

production centre.

• Red Deer College received

$225,000 to open Alberta’s first

applied degree program for motion

picture arts.

• Grant MacEwen College in Edmonton

is the recipient of $150,000 to be used

for bursaries and scholarships for

students in the Communications and

Broadcast Journalism fields.

• The University of Alberta received

$100,000 to endow the Global

Television Network Acting for the

Camera Program.

• Athabasca University in Alberta was

given $100,000 to fund the formation

of a Media Studies website.

• The University of Calgary received

$100,000 for a communications

studies lecture series.

• The University of British Columbia

was given $500,000 for a chair in

journalism.

• Simon Fraser University received

$200,000 for a graduate fellowship

in communications.

• Camosun College in B.C. received

$200,000 for a Centre for Electronic

Field Production.

• Royal Roads University in B.C. was

given $100,000 for awards funding.

• The University of Victoria received

$250,000 for a scholarship in film and

video arts, an equipment fund, and a

new video artists’ studio.

• North Island College in Victoria, B.C.

received $50,000 for student bursaries

and a Success in Communications

award.

• The British Columbia Institute

of Technology was given $250,000 for

the creation of the Global Television

News Centre of Excellence.

• Mohawk College in Hamilton received

$1 million for the establishment of the

Global Television Network Technology

Endowment Fund, which will ensure

that communications students at

Mohawk maintain a level of proficiency

consistent with industry standards.

• McMaster University in Hamilton

received $1 million for the establishment

of the Global Television Chair in

Communications in the faculty of

Humanities.

CanWest’s newspapers have been

strong supporters of media education,

contributing to a chair in business

and financial journalism at Carleton

University and the Concordia University

School of Media Studies at Loyalist

College, among others.

Industry Support

• The Banff Television Festival received

$500,000 for a Grand Prize Rockie

Award.This award is the highest

honour at the Banff International

Television Festival and celebrates

excellence in television programming.

• The Academy of Canadian Cinema

and Television received $500,000

for the creation of a humanitarian

award handed out at the annual

Gemini Awards.

• The National Screen Institute-Canada

was given $1.25 million toward the

creation of the Global Television

International Marketing Program.

• Canadian Women in Communications

received $500,000 for a women’s

mentoring program.

• The Canadian Film and Television

Production Association was given

$500,000 toward a Global Television

British Columbia Mentoring Program.

• The Canadian Film Centre received

a $1.5 million contribution toward

the building of the Global Television

Network Multimedia Production

Studio.

• The Women in Media Foundation

received a $10,000 contribution for the

Women in Media Foundation 2004

Girls’ TV and New Media Camp.

CanWest Scholarships

As a major media company, we recognize

the need to take a leading role in the

education of future journalists and

broadcasters, and to ensure that those

working in the media today have

access to professional development.

CanWest annual scholarships provide

these opportunities.

The Don McGillivray Scholarship

In 2004 CanWest Global Communications

Corp. established a new scholarship in

Business Journalism at Carleton University

in honour of the late esteemed journalist

Don McGillivray.The $5,000 scholarship

will be awarded annually to a second or

third year Carleton Journalism student

with a minor in Business or Economics.

The Broadcaster of the Future

Aboriginal People’s Internship Award

The CanWest Global Foundation is

committed to mentoring aboriginal

people in the broadcasting field.This

award is valued at up to $10,000 and

places the recipient in a four month

paid internship program at a Global

Television station.

The Scholarship Award for a Canadian

Visible Minority Student

The CanWest Global Foundation is

similarly committed to encouraging visible

minorities to thrive in broadcasting.The

award provides $4,500 in support of a

student’s broadcast education.

The funding we provide to post-secondary

education programs across the country will help

sustain a tradition of excellence in Canadian media.

The Scholarship-Internship Award for a

Canadian with a Physical Disability

This award is valued at $15,000 and

provides financial assistance for one

year of broadcast education and an

internship at the Global Television Network.

Global Television Network/Canadian

Women in Communications Management

Development for Women Award

CanWest sponsored the annual $7,500

Global Television Network/Canadian Women

in Communications Management Development

for Women Award,which provided the recipient

with the opportunity to attend the National

Association of Broadcasters’ Management

Development Seminar for Television

Executives at Northwestern University.

Programming Initiatives

Western Independent Producers Fund

In 2001, CanWest gave $23.9 million in

support of the Western Independent

Producers Fund, which provides funding

for film and television projects produced

by independent producers in western

Canada. Drama, documentaries,

and children’s programming are all

eligible for these funds.

The POP Fund

The POP Fund is a $6

million Promotion of

Programming Fund financed by CanWest

and administered by the Canadian

Television Fund.The mandate of the POP

Fund is to increase audience awareness

of Canadian television programs and

Canadian talent.

Canadians of Excellence PSAs

This is an initiative funded by CanWest

to create vignettes that highlight the

outstanding achievements of Canadians.

The program promotes Canadian heroes,

academics, and medical, business, and

cultural leaders.The vignettes are created

by Canadian independent producers and

made available to all broadcasters free

of charge.

Toronto International Film Festival –

The Film Circuit

CanWest donated $500,000 to the

Toronto International Film Festival

to support The Film Circuit, a

grassroots distribution network for

Canadian and independent feature

films.The Film Circuit distributes

films in partnership with local communities

across Canada.

Northern Lights

As part of CanWest’s dedication to

increased awareness of Canadian

programming and artists, CanWest has

allocated $1 million over five years for

the creation of 60-second promotions

featuring Canada’s leading contributors

to the arts and cultural industries.

Produced by independent producers

across the country, the Northern Lights

vignettes are made available to all

broadcasters in Canada.

The Good Cause Award

Conceived by Frank Palmer,

Chairman and CEO of DDB

Canada and co-sponsored by

CanWest Global Communications Corp.,

the Good Cause award is a national

public service announcement campaign

worth more than $2 million in donated

creative development, production and

media placement.

The Canadian Mental Health Association

is the 2004 recipient of the Award and

will receive $1.5 million of commercial

airtime from the Global Television

Network and its affiliates, as well as

space in the National Post and other

CanWest newspapers across Canada

11:32 a.m.

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